Saturday, January 28, 2012

Now defunct stores of the '80s,'90s to present

  This was certainly the most exciting and active period for me, I often took equipment home instead of paychecks!

     The  '80s saw many a chain store go in and out of business, Sun begat Silo begat Yes electronics, Revelations begat Sounds Great and we certainly can't dismiss Lechmere. These were the pre-cursors to the modern day Circuit City and Best Buy stores. Successful for a while, the true enthusiast wanted a higher level of information and more sophisticated choices than the local big box stores could give. Radio Shack eventually became the "Rat Shack" as the quality of their products diminished over the years.

   There were many respectable Hi Fi Salons in Rochester. To name a few:


           Ron's Discount Stereo aka  RDS Audio aka T.H.E. Audio Threshold aka Esoteric Audio (Their high end shop).  T.H.E. stood for Total Hearing Environment.

These could be closer to '70s than '80s, but I will include them here.

       I worked there from about the mid to the late '70s, the owner Ron Yestrebi was a tyrant. About 5' 4" in his platform shoes he made going to work a real chore every day! Six days a week, and you would call him with the store figures at the end of the day. Our fault if nobody came in the store that day. He was almost forced out of business by a scam artist he partnered with that promised him the sun, moon and the stars. He was going to be on the board of directors for Maxell tape! Basically trying to assume his assets he won because the guy never had a license to do business in New York state.


  Three locations, Greece,Pittsford, and Palmyra with another partner store in Geneva and Esoteric in Webster.

   Major lines were Cerwin Vega, Philips, Presage speakers, Miida turntables, Acoustiphase speakers, MX receivers (Magnavox, fire hazards!) , Audiolab/Impact (Polish speakers with a ridiculously high mark up), Onkyo and bits and pieces of whatever else he could get his hands on. There were a pair of large Advents on display that were modified to sound bad compared to the store's speakers. He also did bogus modifications to DCM Time Windows. They sounded way too good for $660., he figured out a way to get them up to $800.

  Esoteric Audio was a fascinating and arrogant store run by Lee Perkins. They had Quad, Dayton Wright, Gale, Linn Sondek, Tannoy Sae, Hartley and Radford amongst other things. I inherited this store after it closed and had a field day with selling what was leftover!


   The Sound Chamber

  Owned by Nick Desidario , they also had locations in Greece and Pittsford. Some good friends worked there, and a few other dealers got there start working there. More on this later.

   Their major lines were Crown, Bose, ESS, Dual, Sony and Advent. Pretty much the mortal enemies of T.H.E. Audio Threshold.


  J.B. Sound

This was my longest tenure in the business, owned by John Vella and Bill Kelliher. Known as the nice guys, we didn't have any battles with anyone.
  I was there right up until the late '80s,as the store manager for the last couple of years.

   We were large dealers for Klipsch, Bang and Olufsen, McIntosh, Yamaha, Nakamichi, JBL, Dahlquist, Kenwood, Onkyo, Denon,  Advent and Technics. Other smaller lesser known brands like Cizek, Apt Holman, Avid, and Phase Research Speakers. Flirting with some high end- Sota turntables, Threshold, Forte, Perreaux,  B&W, Tandberg and Snell speakers.

   I mentioned earlier in this blog how the name was decided upon, Bill basically ran the Monroe ave. store and John the West Ridge rd.. They flipped a coin,whomever won became the president. The other had his initial come first.Sadly, Bill passed on a few years back and the funeral was a venerable "who's who" of ghosts of HiFi past. Many reps that I had not seen in years were there. John was like a father to me, and I visited him many times after I left.

   A few of the previous JB employees are still in the business, more on this later.

    Stereo One

    A small specialty shop in Brighton owned by John Warren.

   Dealer for Audio Research, Dahlquist, Rogers, Hafler, Linn and Acoustat. I bought quite a fair amount of equipment from him, always gave me a great deal.


   Gala Sound

      Probably put the biggest dent in other dealers pockets in the high end segment, very aggressive!

    Jim Gala's claim to fame was as a jazz pianist and certified acoustician. Manic Depressive, he also had    trouble keeping help. Many of the people I worked with had previously worked there.

   A huge Kef dealer, he also had B&W, Nad, Tandberg, Oracle,Luxman, Belles  and his own house brand of speakers, Soundwave. He actually did quite well with the Soundwaves, later selling the brand to a Canadian company Vero Research.


     The Sound Concept


   Probably my favorite store of all time, owned by three former Sound Chamber employees: Art Perrielo, Jim Pennell and Bob Cesarini.  They had a very successful niche early on with high end car audio and installation, and grew to  very upscale and diverse product offerings. I bought a LOT of stuff from them!

   They were dealers for Audio Research, Mark Levinson, Linn, Nad, Apogee, Aragon, Acurus, PSB, Wilson Audio, Thiel, Mirage,Revel,Sonus Faber, JM Labs,Nakamichi, Project turntables, Chord electronics, VTL,Theta digital, Vidikron projectors , Proceed, Martin Logan and probably another dozen or so that I can't remember (gasp!).

    Art sadly passed on a few years ago, Jim is selling cars, and Bob is working at the Stereo Shop.


   Fairport Soundworks

             Or just Soundworks as they were known the last eight or nine years they were in business.


                Owned by Gary Gratzer and silent partner Bob King, the only real competition for the Sound Concept.

                  Gary had a bare bones basic NAD amp sitting there with the cover off as kind of a slam to them. I would swear he took even more parts out of it!

Dealers for B&W, Rotel,Classe, Marantz, Onkyo, Atlantic Technology,Integra, Totem, Cary tube amps, Musical Fidelity,Rega, Velodyne, Monitor Audio and quite a few other brands.

   Some very obscure stuff like the Scientific Fidelity Teslas and the Spica speakers made this a very interesting place. Physically the largest of the stores, a huge floor plan and three big sound rooms. Many Rochester veterans worked there through the years.



   Paul Heath Audio

             Paul was probably in the business longer than anybody, starting in the '70s and ending in the 2000's.

                 I don't think there is a product line he didn't have at least one of a one point or another! Each week you would find something new, better than what he had shown you the week before. Usually two or three of everything, then poof! Gone. Many of the products I have owned over the years had come from his store originally. Starting on State st. across from the Kodak office, he had several locations in  the area including Henrietta and eventually on Monroe ave with Mike Stroether , this is the last location I can remember. He was an importer for many of the products, and definitely a salesman. Didn't matter who you were, I was in the business and still got "the pitch" every time I went in there!

   He formed an early collaboration with Bob Palkovich with Merlin speakers when the company was in its infancy. These were extremely successful and continue to do well today.

  Paul is still kicking, still has stuff, and you will still see him around town from time to time.

                                     Ahhhhh, if only I could bring them all back.........
        

19 comments:

  1. Hi! Just stumbled across your blog and had to comment. I bought my first high end piece at JB in 1978, a lovely Yamaha turntable which I still have and use. I am from Wyoming county so I had a nearly 2 hour drive to get there, but my friend Ronnie Nichols from Attica had purchased a system for a friend there and I was so impressed I had to go check it out. (Thorens table, Yamaha 60 watt integrated amp, Nakamichi tape deck and Klipsch Cornwall speakers.) My first mind bending audio experience was in Paul Heath's Henrietta shop (Sumo amp, Theta pre, JR 150 speakers, Sumiko cart, don't recall the table). Any way, yes, some great shops in Roch. back in the day!! Thanks.

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    1. Thinking about it, Ronnie actually worked part time for a short while at JB, this didn't click at first.

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  2. Thanks,Jim, great to hear from you!

    Yes, going to Paul's was always a mind bending experience!

    Thinkin' I remember Ron, the Cornwalls were certainly one of the more popular speakers that we had.

    The Yamaha tables of that period were very well made, the top couple had arms made by Stax.

    I still have a pair of JR 149s, don't use them that often, but wonderful speakers.

    Glad to hear you are still spinning vinyl and enjoying this!

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  3. Greetings !
    I have begun my search tracking down Nick Desiderio and found your site / blog.
    I was a minor player in 1976 /77 at The Sound Chamber.

    Nick was nice enough to hire me after much persistence....I was a student at RIT at the time and worked there part time.
    Chuch and Greg were the managers at the time.

    I enjoyed my time there -and the experience proved valuable to my career. The audio bug has lasted my whole life as I have a house full of vintage stuff much to my brides' chagrin.

    Rochester was a haven for quality trade ins not only at our shop but all of them.
    I bought my 1st high end piece from Paul Heath...a traded in pair of Magneplanars. Later, an Audio Research D75. I made payments at RDS on the Soundcraftsmen 2217- which I still have, and to The Sound Chamber for the Rabco ST-7.
    All else=I paid cash for.
    The one pic shows all the stuff I acquired from trade ins......the Mc 240 was from JB, The Futterman H3 was from a shop --I think its name was BoBS SOMETHING.
    The Marantz 7c and 8 b,The HK Citation 1 were all trade ins at the Chamber that I bought.
    The Dahlquists I got via dealer Comp at the Chamber---still have those.
    Today, here in Florida---there seems minimal interest in the vintage stuff-----I hated the Rottenchester weather---but the Audio experience was great.
    Oh, Dont forget the House of Guitars !

    My email is jbourne@cfl.rr.com and I am on face book-- Jeffrey Bourne.
    Any leads on finding Nick would be appreciated !
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  4. Correction---I sold the Maggies that I purchased from Paul to another audio buddy-and then bought the Dahlquists from Paul Heath....had to go look at receipt to remember !

    I see there was a column on closed stores from the 60's and 70's.....guess I should have posted there instead. Oh well.....

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  5. Hello Don,

    I came across your blog and read your post about Ron Yestrebi and boy did the memories come flooding back! You may recall that Audio Threshold had a store in East Syracuse? I was the manager of that store from +/-1979 to 1980 or so. It was just me and a guy named Dave (something Polish) running the store. So, I think you might want to add the Syracuse store to your list or at least the post. Sorry but I don't remember you right off.

    Let me tell you one little story about Ron. We were planning to close the store and Ron had placed a full page going-out-of-business-sale ad in the local newspaper. The morning of the sale, a gentlemen walked in and asked to speak with the manager. He was some sort of government enforcer, sheriff maybe? Anyway, he asked to see the "going out of business license". I was like, WHAT?!?? and he informed me that a license was required for holding a going out of business sale and the license number should have appeared in the newspaper and further, that if I didn't get a license by the time he returned in a couple hours he would lock down the store and haul ME off to jail for holding an unlicensed sale! Now, mind you, I was a wet-behind-the-ears 23 year old and had no idea of any of this stuff! I called Ron and explained the situation to him, expressed my dismay and panic with the prospect of being taken to jail, AND HE LAUGHED!! I was freaking out and he laughed at me! Well, long story short, I scraped together the $40 that was required to obtain the license from personal funds and avoided the lock-up. But, that turned me sour as far as Ron was concerned.

    As I write this, I can't tell you all the memories that were made in the short time I was involved with Audio Threshold (which we "lovingly" began calling audio bunghole). I will bookmark your page and be checking back often. Ahh, such memories...

    Joe P.

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    1. Great to hear from you Joe! Didn't have much involvement with Syracuse. Worked with Stan Breitkopf, Steve Marcellus, John Vyverberg and Lee Perkins and a few other names that escape me now. Ended up running the Webster store towards the end, and I would agree with your feelings about Ron, definitely a tyrant! The license story is a good one! He actually got rid of me over a missing VCR. Don't remember the Stereo Buyer's Club, remember a few other incarnations, Ron's Discount Stereo, RDS Audio, T.H.E. Audio Threshold, etc. I called it the Audio Trash hold after I left.

      Cheers!

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    2. Great read Don. I was just a little too young to remember the real 'glory days'. In 1981 I rode my bicycle to Paul Heath's in Henrietta. I was so smitten by audio gear, I had $1500 into my Linn 'table, before I bought my first car, which cost $200.

      I too remember that cover-less NAD on display at Soundworks. It was a mono amp, probably meant for a center channel. Not the most honest comparison.

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    3. I remember you mentioning that, you went to Paul M's. audiophile record store for some MFSLs and he didn't take you seriously at first. Thanks for the comment, and happy new year!

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  6. Bought some high end kef Speakers from Gala oh sbout 25 years ago, actually still have them.$1700 back then.Had many dealings with Sound Concept as well. Bob was a laid back nice guy, Jim Pennell however liked to break peoples chops and didn`t like it when you gave it back.Now that HD, Projectors, and even Audio hasbecome mainstream, its easy to see why many of these companies went under..Rowe still seems to do well, have bought many great used items from them over the years as well.

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  7. Probably either Kef 105s or 107s. Both fairly respectable, 105s gave JB a tough time! Really nothing like that that we could offer, Klipsch,B&O, or JBL were all totally different. Thinking I might know you? Bob C. is still working at the Stereo Shop in Henrietta, Jim is selling cars. The used stuff is virtually non existent at Rowe these days, Ebay, Audiogon, and Craigslist have made it tough for dealers to latch on to the stuff.

    Thanks for the comment!

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  8. Brings back memories. I remember ALL of these places and most of the people.

    I graduated from RIT back in 1980 and went to work for Nick at the Sound Chamber in Greece. Art was the manager.. nice guy. Russ Redden was their best sales guy at the time. Funny, he was older (in his 40's) and usually disheveled.... always played a Fleetwood Mac album to demo speakers, no matter what music the customers were interested in. But... nobody was intimidated by him, so he did really well. Anyway... I transferred to the Pitsford store and worked for Jim Pennell at that branch... nice like Art but funnier. Bob C was also working there. Bob and I played tennis a few times.. he usually beat me!

    In 1981, the Pitsford store assistant manager (Al Kerstein) and I left and went to work for John Warren at his new store in Greece. John was fun to work for but he was ADHD long before anyone knew what that was... hard to keep him focused on anything for more than a minute!

    I left Rochester in 1982 and went to work for Lechmere in Manchester NH (still selling audio). Some years later, I went back for a visit. John had closed Stereo One and opened a computer business on Monroe Ave. Art, Jim and Bob were running the Sound Concept by then. The Sound Chamber was gone then as well.

    It's funny... this little period of my life was only 2 years but the memories are rich.

    Thanks for posting!

    Mark Colegrove

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  9. Jim Gala freely admitted that he stole much of the design for his speakers from a British company. He was sort of a "stoned music freak." Not a bad piano player but a poor business person. High end stereo in Rochester, N.Y. died in the 1990's. Who needs it? Gala also ran Pomodoro's restaurant on University Avenue. Average food, but they did have some good jazz, including Rochester's own Mike Kaupa on trumpet. As for the food....go elsewhere!

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  10. So wow. I worked for the Sound chamber on ridge road early
    1981. I remember the late night sale training. Nick pulled me out
    In front of everyone to ask why he had to give my customer’s mother a refund.
    I said because her Son Died!

    Went on to work at the Pittsford store. I was the British guy. We sold
    The shit out of Boston! Nick and I never hit off. I used to call
    Him the fresh water sailor! I went on to work with Ron Yestrebi.
    He had a cool basement in his house, and an account with
    Caesar’s palace in Vegas! His sons were fun but he was basically a crook.
    I worked with John Warren for a very short time in the East Rochester store.
    Went on to work for Gala. Some of the best times. Cut my teeth on high audio sales.
    We moved to Florida in the mid 80s I actually helped Jim Gala get his speakers
    Into what was Sound Advice. I was the Kef rep down here.

    So many memories. Quote from Jim Pennell. “Here take all my money”

    Peter P Marks
    VP Sales
    Designer: Theater- Audio -Video-Automation
    30th year
    904 880 7886. ext #3
    peter@firstcoastentertainment.com
    www.firstcoastentertainment.com

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  11. Wow, what memories! I remember something about each of these stories because I was there in a way for all of them, from Bob Hyatt Stereo to Paul Heath Audio (I'm Paul's son, Bob). We were all "boys with our toys" back then and every tweak audiophile upgrade was so, so important. So many egos and rivalries too, as the latest "stereo nirvana" and meeting sales quotas meant everything when I ended up having to work for the other outfits locally for whom I was grateful. Eventually, "video killed the radio star" along with corporate type consolidation and the heyday faded. Luckily, I found my calling and became a psychiatric nurse out in Monterey, California and lived happily ever after, but I remember....











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  12. Wow, what memories! I remember something about each of these stories because I was there in a way for all of them, from Bob Hyatt Stereo to Paul Heath Audio (I'm Paul's son, Bob). We were all "boys with our toys" back then and every tweak audiophile upgrade was so, so important. So many egos and rivalries too, as the latest "stereo nirvana" and meeting sales quotas meant everything when I ended up having to work for the other outfits locally for whom I was grateful. Eventually, "video killed the radio star" along with corporate type consolidation and the heyday faded. Luckily, I found my calling and became a psychiatric nurse out in Monterey, California and lived happily ever after, but I remember....











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  13. Just came across this blog. Unbelievable! I was a student at RIT in 1980-84. I worked at Sounds Great and practically spent every dollar on whatever I could afford! I remember all of these places. I had a pair of Klipsch Heresy’s which were too big for my dorm room so I sold em and bought KEF 103s from Gala Sound. I remember that Sounds Great would “spiff” a cheap line of speakers with a huge markup. Those were the days!

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  15. Your comment about RDS screwing with the Advents to make them sound bad takes me back to 1975. I saw their game immediately and left the store in disgust. Bought a pair of Advents at Sound Chamber. Happy to come across this post because nobody believed me back then.

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